Star trek Discovery season 2 ep 3 (short)

[oanja]

Did not like that episode much

- I still don't care about the Klingon's at all, so that already puts a minus on this episode column. I hope this was the last of them, as the whole plotline seems to have come to an end and there's not really anything interesting there, unless they actually want us to just watch Klingon politics play out (yuck, pls no)
- I guess Voq/Ash is going to be on the Emperor show they are making(?)
- That baby plot was pointless, why did we even get that?
- I do not like where the plot with Spock is going. It's so stupid and completely retconning everything we know about Spock from the original series
- How Amanda insisted that Spock was raised as Vulcan and she wasn't allowed to show him affection and how Spock was punished if he showed emotions... even though we saw him have that tantrum with Michael came to their house and his dad just stood there smiling at him. Whut?
- Also how does that fit with what Sarek said about wanting Michael to teach Spock empathy and feelings and friendship and all that???
- The implication made in this episode that Spock is and has been very unstable and having severe lack of empathy and whatever and his mom being all "maybe he's a psychopath now" like wtf are they doing to Spock???
- I mean I joked about how the kid!Spock looked like a serial killer, but this is just getting ridiculous.

Things I liked:
- I guess the plot with Tilly is okay, or I just like Tilly, so watching her is fun
- Pike is still nice
- Michael actually going to him and trusting him with the medical file (cool, but too soon maybe?)

Comments

[sewn]

Yeahhh this episode was a mess imo. I agree with all of your points. There's some good stuff going on, but there are too many major storylines (four? five?), and as much as I like the thought of seeing the Emperor again, when that happened I was just... wait there's MORE. Can we get a breather?

(Also lol as a reluctant Shadowhunters fan, seeing that actor in the end made me screech out loud. He was a very annoying, very able-to-return-from-death kind of a character on that show, and seeing him gave me another "NOT AGAIN" moment)

I liked L'Rell a lot in S1, but I am just not interested in seeing more Klingon politicking. And on a shallow note, wth is up with her fashion choices?? I kind of had a crush on L'Rell before, she was interesting and.. aesthetically pleasing IDEK

And then they did one of my least favorite things ie. "I love and want to protect my child so much I'm going to send them away so they'll never even see me." IT NEVER GOES WELL. I have a feeling we'll get a few episodes' break from the Klingons and the baby plot, but they'll come back eventually and we'll see the ~true meaning~ of it. I mean, if that really was the last we see of that baby, that's... such a waste.

Also, how fucked up was that when Amanda said that because she wasn't "allowed" to show affection to Spock, she gave it all to Michael. Like... I'm glad I had you, my back-up foster child, so I could use you as a proxy?



All in all, they're doing the Vulcans dirty here. And it's not like TOS and the old movies didn't already explore Spock and the Vulcan culture.

Still gonna keep watching...

[oanja]

Especially the section 31 (or whatever) part seemed pointless, I think it was just there to pave the way for the spinoff show.

I haven't watched much of Shadow Hunters, so I dunno which actor you mean :D but that sounds like a fun moment...

The klingon fashion has been bonkers from the start of this show. :D And yeah it was sort of weird for them to have Emperor evil come and tell her what to do, it really undermined her as a character. She really was much more interesting back in season 1.

Yep that stuff with Amanda made no sense to me, I think the previous canon was that she did show affection for Spock and that it was Spock who turned her down as he embraced/was forced to embrace the Vulcan way as a child/youth. It would be no wonder if Spock didn't like Michael if he had to see his mother seemingly love some other child instead of him, especially as she's human. Ouch!

I guess we'll see where this all goes. I'm going to keep watching too. It has a lot of stuff in it, even though some stuff is very weird. (I've had a similar relationship with TOS and DS9 so I guess this makes it seem more 'trekky' to me that I don't just like all of it. :P

[sewn]

I believe the Shadowhunters actor was playing the captain (?) of the Section 31 ship. Uhhh just thinking of his smug face is getting to me. I assume it fits the character though. (I'm sure I'll watch this show, too.)

I think the previous canon was that she did show affection for Spock and that it was Spock who turned her down as he embraced/was forced to embrace the Vulcan way as a child/youth

This is my understanding as well. And then they did explore Spock's embracing his human side later in life. This new take seems like it will just be a retread of that larger storyline (probably compressed into this one season?). And it feels weird to think about that happening without Kirk's influence...

I guess I shouldn't make guesses before we actually see what happens though. :D In S1, I was certain what was going to happen with Lorca; I was resigned to Jason Isaacs dying early on, like, he's just one of those actors? But I was proven wrong quite happily -- I liked that character.

this makes it seem more 'trekky' to me that I don't just like all of it

Hahaha, this is such a good way to put it. :D